Women roles according to God's Word
Q: Watched videos online and heard in forums too folk saying women can be pastors, leaders. Is this true?
I dont think it is necessary, and is not helpful for gobbs of people to be talking on things as so called Christian youtubers do, because folk should be learning from within a their own biblically [orthodox] Christian church under the shepherding of "their" Pastor/Elder/Decon leaders there as God intended. So that attention seeking folk outside the church, and those not authorized by the church dont lead their congregants astray. When folk have questions their-those leaders are the *first* folk they should go to, so they can be rightly guided, counseled and discipled [all in one] by them.
We know theres false churches claiming to both be Christian and a church, along with wolfs-false preachers and false teachers manipulating, decieving & destroying folk in those dens of demons, which the new, weak and genuinely unaware folk end up believing cuz they assume anyone claiming to be Christian, a Pastor or calling themselves a church "are". So theres loads of very false teachings out there, as there have been since the first early churches (which Scripture discusses and warns about).
On the women topic, It is very clear from Creation [Adam first], to the Fall [curse of the woman] God's intention in design of Man as Head, Leadership, Priest over the home to the Church likewise, that Man is the only Pastor, the Head and Priest over the congregation, just as Christ [in human form as a man] is Head of the Church/Bride, our High Priest, and Mediator between us and the Father. Thus there are roles for women in this life by design, and therefore excludes us from being Pastor/Decon/Elders roles, just as we are not to be Head of the home, but live in humble living submission. Just as Christ submitted to the Father as an example to us all. Christ made himself lower, submitted to the Father for the role he had in this life [as human] to complete the mission he was assigned, and role he lived out.
Women are to marry. The NT discussion on better not to marry was discussed to the men, so they could be free to only serve God. There was no question that women should marry as God united woman to a man in Eden, and with ut comes blessing, security and protection. Women were to marry and be part of the fruitful and multiply command and blessing given by God so in the design it requires marriage lived in holiness in order to fulfill that role. Being a mother is a vital important mission as with the husband they both show the Gospel in the marriage and raise up the kids in Christ to then send them forth to do the same. The mother's role is one of long term dedicated ministry to the children in that purpose. Whether its 3 or 20 kids, each one is getting special ministry and discipleship being trained up to know and follow the Lord. Nowhere else is this seen in the world. Church is 52 days a year, public schools have kids 365 days but its not the home life showing forth the Gospel in teaching and application, seeing it lived out at home (forgiveness, grace, love, etc), as well and targeted Bible discussions by the parents and discussing life topics and news in Christian way, wherever we are and as we come and go about our lives outside and inside the home.
At church in worship Women are to be silent and ask questions at home by their believing husband. If they dont have one, married a unsaved man in rebellion to the unequally yoked command, got saved after marrying (both unsaved) or their spouse became apostate or false convert, then they can ask the pastor after church hours, the male decons and elders (maybe their Sunday School teacher too). We also have Bible studies and Sunday school classes which the early church and illiterate them didn't have, and we have the Bible in which we can study now [thanks to the Reformers]. So we can study Scripture in a matter with the Holy Spirit guiding those among us who actually are saved. We can study Scripture, access reliable biblical resources online such as GotQuestions or use tools like the MacArthur Study Bible, to help us, but we can and should ask questions in Bible studies taught at our church, and by the mature believers there. We can also like as Scripture says to exhort, adminish, correct and teach, (like with the married couple who), went to a believer who had a wrong understanding to correct the error on an Essentials level, (and other ones just as important), to lead him into truth. Mature believers can do that, and a woman with her husband with her [as he is lead, submitted to him and held her subordination role] together could talk with the guy [yet she would submit to her husbands leadership and final things on the convo matter]. Here Aquila & Priscilla were speaking on an truth of the Faith (The death, resurrection and transformative work of the Holy Spirit in a believers life).
Women [also related] are only prevented from Head/Leader role in the Church as they cannot have Authority over men. As noted before regarding design. Throughout Scripture we see that if women have their household in order [Prov 31 woman had servants help for cooking, cleaning and help with the children] they can invest or have a business if they'd like. Just as in NT women can choose to spend their free time, outside of teaching Christ and being an example to the Children for Christ, they can also go share the Gospel in her comings and goings, with or without her husband, though its safer to do so together in Christ (just as Jesus sent the Apostles out in 2 and 3's). Can you go out to share Christ with intention to those in the community with your teen children? Sure. Just as you can with your church outreach team that pairs you with 2 others.
Can a woman share the Gospel online, sure. Can a woman encourage other women, yes. Can older mature in the Faith women in the church of membership teach other women how to be godly wives and mothers, under the lead and with approval and supervision of the Elders/Pastor and leaders? Yes.
“Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.” Titus 2:3-5
Is the best pursuit of a woman to be living for Christ, a wife raising up godly children (as Timothys grandmother and mother did), as one who shares Christ with others, and might have a side job once all the kids are older, that is better to be faith based (under her husband and churches supervision for ensuring its within biblical orthodoxy) like making Christian coloring books, books to help young women and brides and mothers, cooking for Christ and related type within the local community as sn extension of outreach? Yes.
There are things women can do outside the church, and limited things within the church and within ministry. These are facts. They're under the leadership (& supervision) of their father or husband at home [guided by church leadership], and under the leadership of the men in the church [whom God gifted & placed in those leadership roles], and same is true [led by father/husband/&church] in any ministry they are doing outside the church, as theyre still under the leadership of both. And Christ is the Head, the leader they submit to too. And the Shepherds are accountable to God for you. Thus we cannot seperate ourselves from their holy shepherding over us, leading us into holy livung & maturity.
There are clear roles God created for men and women. If women are pushing for feminist like worldy ways, theyre showing God's curse on them (even under their husbands) is true as they they strive agents men to try to go their own sinful way to usurp their position and role, in violation to God's design and order.
A true Christian will be guided by their church (male) pastor-teachers and (male) leaders, to live within the confines of and submit to their God given design and role in this life, and live it out. Which glorifies God, and brings blessing. A true Christian woman would pursue this as God designed, and not seek ways to circumvent it. As she will be pursuing holiness, righteousness and being a proper servant of God.
Scripture is clear on this. It is what the Holy Spirit reveals to us as teacher, for those who actually have Him Indwelling, and teaches them. It isnt hard to see for those who have spiritual eyes. And those being led and guided in a biblical church.
Women are not second class just as Christ wasnt 2nd class, though in subordination. Christ is the 2nd person of the Trinity, equal, but for the purpose of man's salvation, put himself under the Father. Women is equal, made from Adams side, to be on his side and a helper, as well as life companion. Together living for Christ. Just having different roles in life.
The problem today are bad churches leading folk astray with false teaching on this matter, feeding into women's fleshly desires to usurp (whether unsaved church goers, professions who are false converts, or new unwitting believers duped by such folk). We must correct, adminish and call women to obey God, which is easy if one is saved, cuz their nature is to submit/live out in their new righteous nature.
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Footnotes:
Verses from Scripture
Genesis 1:27
"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."
• This verse affirms the equal value of men and women as bearers of God's image.
Genesis 2:18
"The Lord God said, 'It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.'"
• This verse shows God created man to rule, and highlights the creation of woman as a helper for man, suggesting a complementary relationship.
Genesis 3:16b
To the woman he said, '...Your desire will be to control your husband, and he will rule over you.'"
• Notes: this control or usurping desire is a result of the fall, where the natural order of relationships is disrupted, the consequences of sin entering the world. The harmonious relationship that existed before the fall is now marred by conflict and struggle for power. The husband's ruling is not meant to imply tyranny but rather a divinely ordained leadership role for the husband. There's hope though. By restiration in Christ. This fir believers equally yoked the redemption through Christ restores the intended position, roles, harmony and mutual respect in marriage.
1 Corinthians 11:3
"But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."
• This verse establishes a hierarchy within relationships, indicating that man has a leadership role over woman.
Ephesians 5:22-24
"Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
• This passage outlines the roles of husbands and wives within marriage, emphasizing the husband's leadership and the wife's natural submission.
1 Timothy 2:12-13
"Woman are not to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve."
• This verse speaks to male leadership in the church and the home, referencing the order of creation. Paul spoke by the truths taught by Holy Spirit, not of himself, and not as a direct command of Christ, but again all Scripture is God breathed. Thus it is from God.
1 Peter 3:1-2
"Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word [unsaved], they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives when they see the purity and reverence of your lives."
• This passage encourages wives to submit to their husbands, shine Christ in the home, highlighting the influence of her godly life, it also would include seeing her in deeds and how she speaks as she lives out the Faith.
5. Colossians 3:18
"Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord."
• Similar to Ephesians, this verse reinforces the idea of submission within the marital relationship.
Titus 2:3-5
"Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God."
• This passage emphasizes the role of women in teaching and nurturing within the home, and educating other women to do likewise.
Ephesians 5:25-28
"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her... In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself."
• While this passage emphasizes the husband's role to love and sacrifice for his wife, it also reinforces the idea of distinct roles within marriage.
1 Timothy 3:1-2
"Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach."
• This passage outlines qualifications for church leaders, shows this position only applies to men.
1 Peter 3:7
"Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."
• This explains husbands are called to live with their wives in an "understanding way." This means that husbands should be sensitive to their wives' needs, emotions, and perspectives, fostering a relationship built on empathy and care. Also this refer to the physical and sometimes emotional differences between men and women. This does not imply inferiority but rather acknowledges the unique strengths and vulnerabilities of women. The equal spiritual standing of husbands and wives before God, emphasizing that both share in the blessings of salvation and grace. But warns of spiritual consequences by the way husbands treat their wives; the warning is that their prayers may be hindered if they do not honor and respect their wives. This underscores the seriousness of the marital relationship in the context of a husband's spiritual life. The broader context of mutual submission in marriage, as outlined in Ephesians 5, is where both partners are called to love and respect one another.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
• This passage points to male leadership in the church and the role of women in submission.
1 Timothy 5:14
"So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander."
• This verse encourages women to embrace traditional roles within the family structure.
Proverbs 12:4
"A wife of noble character is her husband’s crown, but a disgraceful wife is like decay in his bones."
• This verse highlights the importance of a virtuous wife and her role in bringing honor to her husband.
Titus 2:4-5
"Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God."
This passage emphasizes the role of older women in mentoring younger women, encouraging them to embrace their responsibilities in love, self-control, and home management, thereby reflecting godly behavior.
We are to live within the roles God designed us to, yet can minister to other younger women in the Faith, on topics pertaining to godly living, Christian wifehood & motherhood. And that we are not to pursue worldly sinful ways outside these.
Proverbs 31:26
"She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue."
• A virtuous woman speaks with wisdom and gives instruction.
Proverbs 31:10-31
"A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies."
• a godly wife is a treasure, brings peace to the home, and pursues righteousness.
As a Christian woman, if you are indeed a new creation in Christ, these will be how you live your life.
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